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PostSubject: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:17 pm

Some gimmicks, some solid units, some flyers, and 4 troops, 3 HS... What a Face

Lord and Immortals chill in the back with the Chronotek, snap off an Arrow into a Land Raider and hopefully strand some termi's to get lined up by the Doomsday Ark.
D.Lord and Blob Warriors march up the middle and be scary.
Deathmarks and Despairtek mark a unit for death, all wound on 2's against that unit, even the Cryptek as per the FAQ.
3 Flyers.
2 Annihilation Barges for more Anti-Everything

Overlord - 90
Warscythe - 10
Arrow - 30
Weave - 15
Labyrinth - 20
- 165

Destroyer Lord - 125
Weave - 15
Mindshackle - 20
- 160
Cryptek - 25
Chronometer - 15
- 40
Cryptek - 25
Despair - 5
- 30
5 Deathmarks - 95
NightScythe - 100
- 195
20 Warriors - 260

10 Warriors - 130
NightScythe - 100
- 230
10 Warriors - 130
NightScythe - 100
- 230
5 Immortals - 85
- 85

Doomsday Ark - 175
Annihilation Barge - 90
Annihilation Barge - 90
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:38 pm

Seems like a decent list. Least its not CronAir.
I assume the one big group of warriors is to hold back and defend your own area, the two with nightscythes for taking others?

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:44 pm

Wow thats hard to read when I copy from notepad...

Overlord, Warscythe, Arrow, Weave, Labyrinth
Destroyer Lord, Weave, Mindshackle
Cryptek, Chronometer
Cryptek, Despair

5 Deathmarks, NightScythe

20 Warriors
10 Warriors, NightScythe
10 Warriors, NightScythe
5 Immortals

Doomsday Ark
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge

The 20 warriors hold the center and move forward glancing things to death, and are protected by the D.Lord minimally.
The 2 x 10 Scythe Warriors just move out and hope to capture other objectives, with enough shooting pressure from everything else to assist.
Immortals hold the back with the Arrow Lord
Death marks cheese out a kill on a Deathstar with the Despairtek.
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:20 pm

4 Troops, 2 of which are solid, two MSU (Actually kind of like the old Warrior/Venom squad...) 3 HS, 3 Flyers, 1 anti Monster/death star, and some decent agility out of the immortal/overlord/veiltek...

Oh and now a big blob of scarabs for screening, tarpitting, and wrecking things.

Overlord, Warscythe, Arrow, Weave, Shackle
Destroyer Lord, Weave, Shackle

Cryptek, Despair, Veil of Darkness
Cryptek, Despair, Nightmare Shroud

5 Deathmarks, NightScythe (Shroud)

9 Immortals (Veil, Overlord)
20 Warriors (D.Lord)
5 Warriors, Nightscythe
5 Warriors, Nightscythe

8 Scarabs

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:49 pm

Remind me not to play against that list Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:11 pm

you will need more than the scarabs to screen CC. you need to be more afraid of combat. you will lose. either spiders or wraiths...

no Doomsday Ark (only gets S9 blast if no move) Doom Scythe or three is wicked though.

very solid and troopy, but those small warrior squads better not be tested by the enemy, or they will crumble.
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:59 pm

Could just as easily pull the Veil from one of the Cryptek, and get 2 spiders for 100 vs 1 Anni. Barge at 90.

Lets do that, they can boost the scarabs too. :p

EDIT: Screw it, you cant beat spraying models silver for speed painting!

Order placed, your Necrosphynx is in there!
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:26 pm

Thanks for the order!

good silver spray can be found at Wallmart (I was looking for Matte Blue for my war engines) and I was always surprised that more people (Giddeus) don't spray silver, and wash black/colour; You'll be done painting an army not yet in town, while I'll barely get my few engines done by the 'Con.... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:38 pm

The problem with spraying is it is usually too bright, and then washing it makes it too dark? You almost end up needing to drybrush it again anyways (or I always did) so I settled for straightup drybrushing.
I also prefer the "dusty" iron look that drybrushing gives.
Although I have noticed that the dusty look does not seem to suit the necrons as well as the IW.

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:59 pm

Honestly I had looked into an IW theme as well in my reams of lists simply due to the ability to spray the majority silver. :p

I shouldnt have too much of an issue.

Black Base
Silver Spray
Touch up
Black Wash (the old badab black is still out there under Army Painter)
Add some other colour (red likely...dont judge me)
Done!
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:03 pm

Sounds like it'll look good, and I see nothing wrong with having red in there Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:35 pm

You cold also do what Donkey did and theme your squads by colour?
Shoulder guard or chest piece in each colour, stripe the Nightscythes and barges the same?

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:56 pm

Yeah I have thought about it, something simple like a differently located stripe on an arm/face/leg or something, nothing too crazy as they are all just automatons after all.
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:52 pm

Well with the new fluff they are less automatons and more like... mustache twirling robots
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Not the warriors, they are still very much just simple robots.

Immortals - mostly robots, but can give and following simple orders

Lychguard - still have attitude, thoughts, 'emotions'.

HQ types, twirl that mustache! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:28 pm

Not having played with or against the Crons, whats the deal with the barges?
I have been reading a lot of lists that try and break the cronair mould, and most want the barges in play, so what advantages do they bring?
Are monoliths truly dead? I thought something with AV14 was still good?

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:16 am

Barges rez your guys, and are AV13 until penetrated, pretty expensive at 115 though.

Monoliths are just expensive, I think thats the main knock on them? TBH I dont think pure flyers are the way to go anyway, its just an easy build.
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:14 pm

Le Bump!

Minor tweaks. Buff to the 20 Warrior blob with Szeras (Upgrade + Defensive Grenades)
Add 2 Storm Crypteks for AV14 denial.
Add Shroud back to the 2nd Despair Cryptek.

Overlord, Warscythe, Arrow, Weave, Shackle
Szeras

Cryptek, Storm (MSU Warrior)
Cryptek, Storm (MSU Warrior)
Cryptek, Despair, Veil of Darkness (Immortals)
Cryptek, Despair, Nightmare Shroud (DeathMarks)

5 Deathmarks, NightScythe (Shroud)

9 Immortals (Veil, Overlord)
20 Warriors (D.Lord)
5 Warriors, Nightscythe
5 Warriors, Nightscythe

8 Scarabs

Spiders x 2
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:39 pm

I like the look of this list
It'd be a good army to model/paint as well, as you have few repeat models (other than 30 warriors which are spray'n'wash)
How would you play it?

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:01 pm

Kind of like my Orks actually, but more reliably.

20 Necrons will take a long time to kill via shooting, the scarabs and spiders are to act as a bit of a deterrent to focused assault (assault elements themselves are likely to be minimal in my fantasy world of shooting being favoured).

The Immortals are mobile due to the Veil, can lay down some decent shooting, and will be resilient enough. On Turn One they can be in the Enemy DZ, shooting at say...a Quad Gun.

Anni. Barges lay down supporting fire and are decent against light flyers.

Scythe MSU Squads just go where needed, with the Stormtek being there to cheese out AV14 wrecks.

The Deathmark is another cheesy squad in that it confers the "Always wound on a 2 against the Mark" to any IC's that join, such as the Despairtek with the Flamer that is AP1...
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:58 am

Immediate thoughts on the list after game 1.

Scarabs and Spiders are a decent amount of points at 220, need to look at what other ways that can be spent.

Lord with Immortals + Veil, decent enough as a trick unit.
20 Warriors, like em.

Szeras? Sure like the model, I may just go Szeras/Anrykr for a unit of super immortals?

Flyers, did enough, but I misplayed them really. TL Tesla Destructor's are bordering on broken though, so gotta get them in there.

Anni. Barges are pure win.


So thoughts

Maybe take a Walker?
Maybe take Wraiths?
Drop Szeras/Spiders/Scarabs for other stuff?

More games to go for sure.

Oh and Necrons SUCK in CC! :p
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:39 am

The walker is sure a damn fine model.
Go for the super immortals...theme the army...THEME THE ARMY!

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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:26 pm

Thats a decent point actually, get me some fluff points...
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PostSubject: Re: Gottacon N is for Necron!   Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:09 pm

Latest more competitive leaning.

Zahndrekh buffs/debuffs units and runs around with the Veil Immortals.
Overlord sits with the Warrior Blob in the back, with the Destruction Cryptek providing defensive grenades.
Deathmarks kill something with the Shroud Cryptek

2 Flyer Squads fly around.

Tomb Blades, probably just zip around and be annoying, trying to strip hull points, or tying up a unit (5 T5, S3, Reanimation...)

Barges shoot stuff!

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Overlord, Scythe, Weave

Cryptek, Destruction, Gaze of Flame, Solar Pulse
Cryptek, Despair, Veil of Darkness
Cryptek, Despair, Shroud

5 Deathmarks, NightScythe

20 Warriors
5 Warriors, NightScythe
5 Warriors, NightScythe
10 Immortals

5 Tomb Blades
Shield Vanes (3+ Save)

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