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PostSubject: Noise/plague marine champions   Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:32 pm

Noise marine champion model and recently released upgrade pack, the model has Power weapon and bolt pistol.
The Noise marine champion however cannot take this combo as it does not have a CCW nor can it purchase one apparently, and without said CCW can not take a power weapon.
Is this on purpose, or is it assumed when it says "any noise marine may take a ccw" does it include the champion?

Plague champion: Does the plague knife count as a ccw, and therefore allow him to take a power weapon? or same as above he does not have a "ccw" and therefore cannot purchase a powerweapon?

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PostSubject: Re: Noise/plague marine champions   Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:37 pm

*I* see the plague knife as being a CCW because its a weapon with the "melee" type, and what else would that be?

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PostSubject: Re: Noise/plague marine champions   Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:52 am

Both entries say, "The *** Champion can take items from the MELEE and RANGED WEAPONS wargear lists"....

the Plague Knife is clearly in the wargear section.
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PostSubject: Re: Noise/plague marine champions   Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:58 am

The issue being, Nightlord, that they can take weapons from the MELEE section, but will have to replace the bolt pistol with the power weapon, and still have a boltgun, hence no bonus attack in CC.
If the Plague knife is a generic CCW, then you can swap it for a PW, PF, CF, otherwise you need to swap the bolt pistol as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Noise/plague marine champions   Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:24 pm

Give the Champ a CCW for 1pt, and swap IT if you really want to. The Plague Champ has to swap his bolt pistol RAW, but I have zero issue with that model swaping the plague knife for a PW.
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PostSubject: Re: Noise/plague marine champions   Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:36 pm

Yeah, see, that's what I actually figured, and would play it as. I assume it will be an errata at some point.

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